Oblivion Blood And Mud
Directed by Sam Irvin. With Richard Joseph Paul, Jackie Swanson, Andrew Divoff, Meg Foster. On this planet, it's Cowboys and Aliens. Mud Crabs are also very common in sewers. Mud Crabs attack with their claws. They have the following characteristics: A 15% chance of being infected with the disease Swamp Fever. There is one giant Mud Crab in Greenmead Cave. It is really just a standard Mud Crab, but its scale has been set to 3 (instead of 1).
My son is 14. He has played M games (the original diablo and D2/LoD) for many years. Currently we share a WoW account. He likes to play side games on his ps2 (BG: Dark Alliance, star wars lego, something where he is a vampire and kills things with a sword, etc.) and pc games such as fable.
I think he would really like oblivion. His grandmother was going to buy it for him for christmas, but she got scared by the M+ rating.So is it the violence like decapitating some monster that gives it the M+ rating? Or is there sex like I hear (never played it and don't want too heh) in grand theft auto? Just looking for some feel for why it would be M+ and what makes it different than say D2/LoD.
Oblivion Thievery
Originally posted by Azzello:I thought the Dark Brotherhood questline was part of the reason they changed the rating as well. Don't really remember exactly but the DB quests did strike me as pretty gruesome.Spoilerish(?).FWIW, that is the most gruesome scene in the entire game, and there are no real comparable scenes that I remember.Typically it really deserves more of a teen rating.Er, what about all of the naked disfigured corpses hanging upside down dripping blood inside pretty much every oblivion gate?
Oblivion Rebuilt
And similarly what about the guys hanging in the cages that you can dump out and let fall down to get stuck on spikes hundreds of feet below. As soon as I saw that stuff I knew that the original Teen rating wasn't right.Sure, just galloping around the countryside is mild, but the stuff in the oblivion gates is gruesome. It involved some bullshit politics and another mishandling by the ESRB.
They reviewed Oblivion and initially gave a Teen rating, despite labeled documents and examples of murder, decapitation, stabbing, etc. Bethesda shrugged their shoulders and didn't quibble.
The M rating wasn't even a consideration of the Dark Brotherhood aspect, but the possibility of a nipple texture being hacked and applied to the game via a mod. Personally, I'm not sure how you hack a 360 to view a mod or hack a PS2 to view Hot Coffee, but whatever. Apparently, end user hacks and mods are now the responsibility of programmers, so they better not comment out lines of code or disable hidden content, lest someone mod it.If they are going to be phony and re-rate crap, they should at least determine the difference between a PC which can easily install mods vs a console that requires a soldering job + modchip, or a software flaw to enable unlicensed end user downloaded programs. But hell, according to Congress the games industry can't regulate itself and the Internet is a series of tubes.Who are we as gamers to use personal judgement to protect ourselves? Will someone please think of the children. Who know how to hack a console. And use a soldering gun.
And install unlicensed code. And deliberately view content that's widely available online. Torn city motorcycle helmet.
These sophisticated children are too innocent! Originally posted by Kebo:I don't think Oblivion has too much of the stuff a 14 year old really wants to see.So true. I remember playing the first Elder Scrolls (Arena) when I was 14 and being thrilled to have topless characters in the game. No ratings back then and I don't recall anyone ranting about the 'evils of Arena.'
Funny how far we've regressed these days. Bethesda removed the nudity from future games and still worries about ESRB ratings because of a nipple. America loves their violence but still shuns teh boobies. I just don't get it. Sanguine my brother.Yeah, Oblivion is definately a rated M game. When I am doing something that is not obviously bad and nasty (like I am hacking up mud crabs or goblins) I let my young boys watch me play O (but I don't let them play the game). If I am on a quest for the DB, I don't do it while they are around.
They know when I am killing evil things and doing good in the game.IMHO it's OK for my kids to see my charater hack up obviously evil and bad things. If I have to come up to an innocent (or a mark for a hit) and assassinate them, I don't want my boys to see daddy being evil. Also, when there is scenery that is scary and gruesome, I turn the game off.This is how I make the game OK for them- by controlling what they see of it.14 years old. Depends on the kid I guess.
I played D&D as a 14 year old and was exposed to fantasy violence but I am not a violent or tortured person now. That's a tough one. If you are really concerned, the Dark Brotherhood quests are the only seriously disturbing ones. There's some generic gore in the oblivion gates, but nothing you wouldn't see on the cover of a heavy metal album!So, you could just create a quick mod in the toolset and remove the Dark Brotherhood 'Speaker' character, or edit/delete one of the quest flags so it breaks the quest line.Or, you could go into the save game and use the console to set the quest stage to whatever corresponds to 'You have killed the Speaker and will never be able to join the brotherhood'. If you wanted to do it, I'm sure a modder could look up the console command for you. Originally posted by Ohmn:My son is 14.
He has played M games (the original diablo and D2/LoD) for many years. Currently we share a WoW account. He likes to play side games on his ps2 (BG: Dark Alliance, star wars lego, something where he is a vampire and kills things with a sword, etc.) and pc games such as fable.
I think he would really like oblivion. His grandmother was going to buy it for him for christmas, but she got scared by the M+ rating.So is it the violence like decapitating some monster that gives it the M+ rating? Or is there sex like I hear (never played it and don't want too heh) in grand theft auto? Just looking for some feel for why it would be M+ and what makes it different than say D2/LoD.Oblivion is no more or less gruesome than Diablo.
It might seem a little more real in Oblivion due to the much higher-res, 3d first person graphics, but there are tortures corpses and stuff in Diablo 1/2 as well.Also, Diablo has MORE nudity than Oblivion. IIRC there are naked boobs on enemies in Diablo 1 and 2, none of that in Oblivion without mods.